1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Flixborough, 1974. The nitrochemical plant explodes. This woman described the disaster 2 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:36,160 five hours before it happened. Chicago, 1979. The crash of American Airlines Flight 191. 3 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,400 David Booth claims he foresaw every detail in his dreams. Can some people really see into the 4 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:50,080 future? April 1912. The Titanic tragedy was also predicted. What can explain such knowledge of 5 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,640 things to come? Mysteries from the files of Arthur C. Clarke, scientist, writer and visionary. 6 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,840 A scientist who invented the communication satellite, the writer of 2010, 7 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:12,560 and now in retreat in Sri Lanka, the visionary who ponders the riddles of this and other worlds. 8 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:39,360 I've never had a premonition and I rather hope I never do. But they're quite common 9 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,320 and a very good example occurred to a good friend of mine many years ago here in Sri Lanka. 10 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,400 He was in charge of a brickworks here in the jungle and one day when he was leaving for his 11 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:56,000 office, the foreman came up to him and said, please master, drive carefully. Something bad is going 12 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:02,960 to happen. So my friend drove carefully and nothing bad happened. However, when he got to his 13 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,320 office, there was a message, please return at once. When he got back to the work site, he found that 14 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:14,080 the foreman, the man who just warned him, was dead, killed in a freak accident. They'd been 15 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:20,640 blasting at a quarry almost a mile away. A stone had been hurled this unprecedented distance, 16 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,120 passed through a small gap in the roof, hit the man on the head and killed him instantly. 17 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:32,560 So he had seen an omen. What he had not seen was that it forecast his own death. 18 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:41,120 Such cases are quite common and very puzzling. But do they really foretell the future? 19 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:48,960 Chicago, May the 25th, 1979. Minutes after the crash of an American Airlines DC-10, 20 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:57,280 273 passengers are dead. The disaster shocked America. Yet 10 days earlier in Cincinnati, 21 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:03,520 David Booth had foreseen it in a dream. I looked up in the sky and there's an American Airlines jet. 22 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:10,240 I don't know what kind it was. I didn't know planes that well. And the first thing that struck me 23 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,680 about it, you know, where I was and looking at it was that it wasn't making a sound that it should, 24 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,320 you know, for being so close to me. It should be louder than it was. It was flying like this and 25 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:26,880 then all of a sudden it goes like this, turns over on its back and then goes straight down on the ground. 26 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:34,640 He woke up one morning and he was in tears, very nervous, very upset. And I said, well, 27 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Dave, what is wrong? And he says, I've had this dream. He says, I don't know where it is or what's 28 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:46,400 going on. He said, but the plane goes up in the air and he says then it banks off to the right, 29 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,560 goes down nose first and explodes. And he says, everybody gets killed. And I said, well, Dave, 30 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,280 it's just a dream. You know, I said, don't let it upset you. You know, everybody has dreams. 31 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:04,640 And I thought about it all day. And, you know, what can I do about it? And I went home that night 32 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:12,800 and normal, everything went to sleep. Next day it happened again. You know, I woke up and didn't 33 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,600 cry this time. You know, I'm saying, you know, uh-oh, you know, what's going on here? 34 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Kept going on every night. 35 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:28,080 Paul Williams of the Federal Aviation Administration was telephoned at Cincinnati 36 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,480 Airport by a distraught David Booth on May the 24th. He remembers that phone call the day before 37 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,480 the crash. In his dream, what he reported to me was that the aircraft suddenly turned sharply to 38 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:46,400 the right and then dived into the ground. And he described in great detail the explosion that he 39 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:54,240 saw. And every time he described that, he became quite distraught because it was almost as if he 40 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:03,920 was seeing death. The next night, David Booth saw this film of the air crash on the television news. 41 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:12,720 The first thing that came on was, you know, was the air crash in Chicago. You know, I'm looking at it 42 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,400 and I lost it then. You know, I'm looking at this thing. You know, this is what I've been dreaming 43 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,720 about. You know, the whole thing. And I looked at Dave and it was just like he turned white as a ghost. 44 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,320 He was, you know, it was almost like in shock. Pictures snatched by an amateur photographer 45 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,280 show how the plane crashed. It had lost an engine and rolled over before hitting the ground and 46 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:39,280 exploding. When he learned the facts, Paul Williams realized that David Booth's dream was uncannily accurate. 47 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:46,160 The coincidences between what David Booth told me on May 24th and what actually happened on May 25th 48 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:53,760 were the airline was exactly correct. The type of aircraft was as he described, 49 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,360 a large aircraft with an engine on the tail, which a DC-10 is. The aircraft was not making the right 50 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,880 sound and he described that to me on May 24th. Perhaps the most remarkable coincidence of the 51 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,880 whole thing was the similarities of the maneuver that the plane made. It's a very unusual maneuver for 52 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:19,360 a plane to make before crashing. Most of them crash with wings horizontally, 53 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:28,240 run into some obstruction, a mid-air collision, but the maneuver that David described was very 54 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,560 unusual. As a matter of fact, it's the only one I've ever heard of of a plane that size. 55 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Does Williams believe David Booth had a vision of the future? 56 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,240 All I can say is I don't know. If David told me that a plane was going to, 57 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,960 a certain plane was going to crash, I certainly wouldn't get on the plane. 58 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,160 40 years before the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in 1912, 59 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,800 writer Morgan Robertson had forecast her fate in a novel. Like Titanic, his ship, the Titan, 60 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,400 hit an iceberg and sank. One passenger on the Titanic believes a premonition saved her life. 61 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Eva Hart, seven years old in 1912, was emigrating to Canada with her parents, 62 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,520 but her mother was convinced the ship was doomed. She begged her husband not to go on board, 63 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,680 but he confidently brushed aside her fears. 64 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Eva remembers her mother's last-minute plea. 65 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,520 When we were going up the actual gangway to get on this ship, she made another, 66 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,400 yet another plea with him, not to go. And he was carrying me, turned to look at her and he said, 67 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,720 well, this is ridiculous. He said, if you feel as badly as that about it, perhaps you'd better go 68 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,880 home to your mother an hour ago on my own, and you can follow when you see I've got there quite 69 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:47,280 safely. Of course she wouldn't do this. And so each night she would change her clothes, 70 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,080 she would change her clothes from whatever she'd been wearing for dinner in the evening, 71 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,120 and get into a warm woolen dress, and her shoes and everything, and sit down in the cabin 72 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:04,320 to read or to sew or knit and remain wide awake for her night. And on this particular night, 73 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,480 when this dreadful thing happened, she'd got this glass of orange juice on the table by the side 74 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:16,560 of her bunk, and she said it was very full. And so small was this bump, which she always 75 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,440 inscribed as being a train pulling into a station. It didn't even slop the orange juice over the top. 76 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,960 And so anyone else would have thought it was just a little thing, it wouldn't matter, but to her, 77 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:33,760 she knew this was the thing that was the end of everything for her. Mrs. Hard woke her husband, 78 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:40,320 who went up to the boat deck, and he came back quite quickly. And he just said to her, you better 79 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,080 put this coat on, put another one on. And she just looked at him and he put this coat on her, 80 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,360 and you know years afterwards, I would say to her sometimes, I can't understand when he came back 81 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,360 into the room, why you didn't say to him, what is it? What's the matter? You awakened him, 82 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,560 you sent him up on deck. And in that lovely calm voice that my mother had, she would say there 83 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:05,360 was nothing to ask him. I didn't have to ask him what it was. I didn't know it was a nice book, 84 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:11,440 but I knew it was this something. Benjamin Hart went down with the ship, but Eva's mother 85 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,920 saved her little girl because she'd been expecting disaster. If my mother hadn't been 86 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,840 sitting up that night, I wouldn't be here now. I owe my life to her, her permission. Don't I? 87 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,080 Lake Tahoe, Nevada, one of the great gambling towns of America. 88 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:33,120 Hopeful punters come here to Caesar's Palace Casino in their thousands to play their hunches 89 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,160 and the dollar fruit machines. A lot of nothing. 90 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:44,960 The Californian lawyer, Jeff Randolph, scooped the greatest jackpot in history in July 1981. 91 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:53,200 $992,000. And he knew weeks in advance he was going to win. 92 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,680 It's the highest amount of money that's ever been paid on a slot machine. This gentleman won it. 93 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:02,480 He came $8,000 short of a million, so Caesar's Tahoe decided to round it off to a cool million 94 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,520 dollars. Randolph maintains luck played no part in his win. 95 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,960 What is the first reaction when something like this hits? 96 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,240 An unusual calm because I knew it was going to happen. 97 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Weeks earlier Randolph had publicly announced he'd win the million. It was more than just a hunch. 98 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Everybody thinks they're going to win and most don't. I think mine was more than a hunch because 99 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:36,480 I felt so strongly about coming up here. There were a series of things that I thought added up to 100 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:45,920 a strong push to get up here to Caesar's that weekend. Among others I had begun telling people 101 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,960 that I was going to win it that weekend and I shaved for the second time in the day, 102 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:57,360 which I had never done before. The first and only time I have ever done so was in the airplane 103 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:03,760 on the way here that night. The night I won the money. I wanted somehow to look presentable 104 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,000 and extra nice for all the pictures that were going to be taken after I won the money. 105 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Did they spell your name right, Jeff? Yes, they did. 106 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:23,680 Delicious. American President Abraham Lincoln dreamed he saw his own coffin in the White House. 107 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Only days later in April 1865, assassin John Wilkes Booth gunned him down in a Washington 108 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:37,920 theatre. The dream had come tragically true. Another dream of the 1921 Grand National brought 109 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,760 happier results. On Grand National Day in the London Daily Graphic, columnist Hannan Swaffer 110 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,960 reported that his friend Dennis Bradley had dreamed the result. Bradley said all the horses 111 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:55,120 would fall except three. The winner would be wearing tartan colours. Every detail came true. 112 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Only three horses finished and winner Sean Sparda carried tartan. In most cases, 113 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:07,120 premonition anecdotes cannot be accepted as proof because they're usually told well after the event. 114 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Ideally, they should be written down and witnessed beforehand so there's no possible doubt. 115 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,440 And one man, a scientist, has attempted to do exactly that. Peter Fairley collected premonitions 116 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:28,160 of the 1966 Abervand disaster. Errol May Jones dreamed something black engulfed her school. 117 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:34,720 Hours later, she and her friends died when a cold tip collapsed. Intrigued, Fairley founded the 118 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Evening Standard Premonitions Bureau. It had a simple function. That was to take from anybody a 119 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:47,520 telephone call, a letter, whatever it may be, some form of premonition, and to note it down, 120 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,640 and to put a time and a date to that and a signature from us as independent observers that 121 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:58,000 that was what they said on that day at that time. And that's all that the Bureau did. 122 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:05,600 I had one call from a man who had seen the winner of the Grand National. He was quite convinced 123 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:11,360 that he'd dreamed this and the reason why it made an impact of him was that he had seen the 124 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,440 colors of the jockeys' blouse and had then checked and found that the horse that was bearing those 125 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,320 colors was called Foynaven. And anybody who remembers that particular Grand National remembers 126 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,640 that Foynaven was almost the only horse that finished. Watch the incredible pilot. 127 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,320 Out of the shambles, one horse appeared, complete with rider, Foynaven. 128 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,080 A complete outsider at 100 to 1, Foynaven cruised home exactly as predicted. 129 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,680 In the course of all these replies that we had, there were some which were really very remarkable 130 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,560 indeed. For instance, I've got some here. For instance, this is a woman who predicts that there 131 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,920 will be hurricanes in Britain and that they will happen in January. 132 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,960 Postmistress Karen Butler sent in the hurricane prediction. It had come to her vividly on the 133 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:16,960 evening of November the 11th, 1967. I was sitting one evening reading and I began mentally to get 134 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,720 the impression of very strong winds. There were really dreadful winds, very, very strong. And I 135 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,240 could see roofs just disintegrating and flying off. I could see trees and branches crashing down. 136 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:37,440 I could see huts and sheds just flying through the air. And I knew the winds were so strong. I said 137 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,320 it's a gale, no it's not a gale, it's a hurricane. It's a hurricane. And then I said, oh the people, 138 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,320 the poor people. Well my husband asked me, did I know where this was going to happen? And I said, 139 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,720 I thought it was in Britain somewhere, but I didn't know exactly where. Then he asked me, 140 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,720 did I know when it was going to happen? I said it would be the middle of the month of January. 141 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:04,000 And on the 15th of January, a hurricane hit Glasgow. The city was devastated. Hurricanes are 142 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:11,360 almost unknown in Britain and the Premonitions Bureau sadly noted a hit. Now we did begin to find 143 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,080 one or two people who seem to be scoring well above average regularly. In fact, we sort of call them 144 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:22,320 our stars. And Lorna Middleton was one of them. Now this is one of her early ones and as so often 145 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,760 happens, it looks rather vague. She says that she's got headaches and symptoms that usually precede 146 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,680 earthquakes. But it was two days later that a really massive earthquake hit Scopgy. 147 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:42,480 Well, I rarely have a headache, perhaps one or two a year. And what I call my earthquake headache 148 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:50,720 is a sharp pain which comes across the forehead, either to the right, to the left, or left to the 149 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:59,440 right. The one I particularly remember was the Yugoslav earthquake because I predicted that 150 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:08,720 about 48 hours before. And that was sent because I had a sharp pain crossing my head. 151 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,240 The problem with all these stars, as we called them, was that the moment that they started to 152 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,440 know that we were interested in what they could do and we started to investigate how they did things, 153 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:26,400 it just went. And that, I think, has definitely come through all this to me as a firm conclusion. 154 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:32,160 That if there is such a thing as premonition, it is something which is instantaneous. It is, if you 155 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:38,240 like, a flash of intuition. It doesn't take any time and if you ask anyone to apply any conscious 156 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,840 thought to it, it actually just goes. You might as well pretend it's not there. They are imagining 157 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:49,120 after that. But if they suddenly have it happen to them, it could be. And the other conclusion is 158 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,960 that when it happens to you, it is an overpowering sensation. You know that it's going to happen, 159 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:00,240 no matter what it is and how unlikely it is. You know it's going to happen. Sadly, but not 160 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:06,160 surprisingly, many premonitions aren't exactly what they appear to be. We all know how difficult it 161 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:13,360 is to get the facts right and everyone loves to embroider a good story. Sometimes a careful 162 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:21,680 investigation reveals a very different picture. I can see a little scenario and it came first in 163 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:29,840 my dreams right after he was elected and it had to do with a gun and it had to do with 164 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,480 shots all over the place. Professional psychic Tamara Rand made this prediction about President 165 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Reagan on American TV. I initially felt it might actually be an assassination attempt or a shot 166 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,200 to the president. March 30th 1981. 167 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Tamara Rand's prediction looked horribly accurate. Yet appearances were deceptive. 168 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:10,960 In fact, the recording was made not on January the 6th, but on March the 31st, 24 hours after the event. 169 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:22,160 In December 1978, American student Richard Newton predicted 45 people would die in a plane crash 170 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:28,240 on March the 11th and on the 14th of March 47 people did die at Gatter in the Persian Gulf. 171 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:35,280 He'd also forecast the plane would have red on its tail and he was right. Yet Newton claimed no 172 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:40,320 psychic powers. He just worked it out from statistics that anyone could find in books. 173 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,720 First he noted that the majority of airlines have some red in their logos. 174 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:53,040 You'll see that more than half have red somewhere in their logos. For instance, American Airlines, 175 00:18:53,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Alitalia, TWA, JAL, all have red in their logos and considering that half of these have red somewhere 176 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,480 in their logos, it's a very safe bet to assume that a plane that crashes is going to have red in 177 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:23,200 its logo somewhere. In this book is listed every plane crash for 25 years. I averaged the number 178 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:30,000 of fatalities per crash over that 25-year period and found out that it averaged between 40 and 50. 179 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:41,040 I chose 45, 47 were killed. As far as the time of the year of a crash, I drew this graph and 180 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,760 listed here are the number of crashes and listed here are the months of the year in which crashes 181 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:54,560 take place. And looking at this graph, you'll notice that March is twice as bad to fly in as May 182 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,920 with an average of about 4.6 crashes per month over that 25-year period. 183 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,080 And averaging the month of March crashes here, you'll notice that the second week of March or the 184 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:12,880 aides of March are the worst time of the month in which to fly. So are there any true insights 185 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:19,280 into the future? Most premonitions can undoubtedly be explained by coincidence. Even the most 186 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:25,360 improbable events will occur if you wait long enough. The question is how long is enough? 187 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:33,280 Somebody once said that the laws of chance do not merely permit coincidences, they compel them. 188 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,320 We've all had examples of this. Perhaps the commonest is when you think of somebody and 189 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,040 five minutes later they call you up on the telephone. Yet other premonitions may involve 190 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:50,240 something more. They may be subconscious foresight, warnings of some danger that the senses have 191 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:57,040 detected but which we are not yet fully aware. No other explanation is necessary. 192 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Premonitions are warnings from our own minds, not from the future. 193 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,320 Yet we should take them seriously because the dangers of which they speak may be perfectly real. 194 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:15,360 So that's why I have a strange feeling whenever one of my friends tells me a premonition. 195 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Something bad may indeed be about to happen. 196 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,760 On June the 1st 1974 the nitrochemical plant at Flickspray and Lincolnshire exploded. 197 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Disaster struck just before five. Yet one woman claimed she heard the details five hours earlier 198 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,760 in a TV news flash which broke into the Saturday morning film. Leslie Brennan, at first I didn't 199 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,800 really take much notice of it because I was you know waiting for it to finish quick so I 200 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,520 couldn't get on with the film and then I heard them mention the name Flickspray near Grimsby. 201 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:55,520 With that I listened a bit closer to it and they said there'd been this terrible explosion 202 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,360 at Flickspray. There'd been a number of people injured and a number of people killed. 203 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Leslie told her friend Peter East the news when he came to lunch. 204 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:11,040 I walked down to Leslie's house which would be at 25 12 when I got there. 205 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,200 Just after we got in Leslie told me that there had been an explosion. 206 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,520 It was flashed on television telling us about an explosion. 207 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,960 And we thought no more about it until it came on the news at tea time and 10 o'clock. 208 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,840 And then the reporters had said that it had happened at tea time. 209 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:35,200 Well we just sat back and laughed about it. Yeah so Cillrouport has got it wrong again you know 210 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,960 typical dinner time or so we thought. But the reporters hadn't got it wrong. 211 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:46,080 The plant went up at 4.53. How could Leslie have known five hours ahead? 212 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:52,640 What five hours different from what Leslie told us? Leslie's seen it at 12 o'clock time and 213 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,240 it happened five hours later. You know we couldn't believe it. 214 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,600 I remember my friend I can see her face now. She looked at me and said oh you know 215 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,120 you told us about that at dinner time. I said yes I know and I can remember feeling very 216 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,080 oh made me feel queer very cold and shaky. And I can remember getting this shower all the way through 217 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,920 me and really I can't explain the feeling it was unusual. 218 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:27,680 In 1971 the submarine Artemis visited Grimsby. The sailors were soon after the local girls. 219 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:33,120 Sandra McDonald was one. I met one particular boy and was with him for about two days till it sailed 220 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:41,360 and it sailed on the 17th on the 30th it's June and a week later on the Wednesday I had a dream 221 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:48,480 on the nighttime and in this dream I saw a like big gray stones which I thought it was like a wall 222 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,640 and I thought that it was a harbour somewhere and I actually saw the submarine sink and I don't 223 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,680 know how I knew but there were three men trapped on board in the dream. The first person she told 224 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,960 was her mother. She came down and she said oh mama I've had an awful dream. She said the 225 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,400 Artemis sank with three men aboard so I said well don't worry too much it's because you know they've 226 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:19,680 gone away you've had a good time. And then a week later which was the 30th of June the submarine 227 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:27,040 did actually sink. I was laid in bed reading waiting for her to come home and the newsflash came on the 228 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,960 radio and said that the Artemis had sank. So when she came home from the dance I called her into the 229 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,680 bedroom and told her what had happened and she just I just sanded her that dream you had about the 230 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,880 Artemis has come true and she just broke down and cried you know because I think I upset her. 231 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,120 When it came true I was absolutely heartbroken because it frightened me. I mean I'd never had 232 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:52,560 anything like that before and at first I thought my mum was joking till when she saw how upset I 233 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,360 was and everything else and as I say we sat up most of the night listening to the bulletins 234 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,000 with the radio and me and my mum together to see if anybody had died on it you know 235 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,160 because I thought it might be somebody I knew on board. 236 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,560 Artemis had gone down in Portsmouth Harbour. The three men on board were rescue. 237 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,160 Two of them were indeed friends of Sandra McDonald. She's still unnerved by the accuracy of her dream. 238 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,240 I didn't really understand it at first. I'd heard about premonitions but also somebody else 239 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,280 I was quite skeptical about it really but obviously it does that. 240 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Next week things that go bump in the night. 241 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,520 you